Jump to content

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/Today

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion policies for the official rules of this page, and how to do cleanup.

Deletion of a category may mean that the articles and images in it are directly put in its parent category, or that another subdivision of the parent category is made. If they are already members of more suitable categories, it may also mean that they become a member of one category less.

How to use this page

[edit]
  1. Know if the category you are looking at needs deleting (or to be created). If it is a "red link" and has no articles or subcategories, then it is already deleted (more likely, it was never really created in the first place), and does not need to be listed here.
  2. Read and understand Wikipedia:Categorization before using this page. Nominate categories that violate policies here, or are misspelled, mis-capitalized, redundant/need to be merged, not NPOV, small without potential for growth, or are generally bad ideas. (See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.)
  3. Please read the Wikipedia:Categorization of people policy if nominating or voting on a people-related category.
  4. Unless the category to be deleted is non-controversial – vandalism or a duplicate, for example – please do not depopulate the category (remove the tags from articles) before the community has made a decision.
  5. Add {{cfd}} to the category page for deletion. (If you are recommending that the category be renamed, you may also add a note giving the suggested new name.) This will add a message to it, and also put the page you are nominating into Category:Categories for deletion. It's important to do this to help alert people who are watching or browsing the category.
    1. Alternately, use the rename template like this: {{cfr|newname}}
    2. If you are concerned with a stub category, make sure to inform the WikiProject Stub sorting
  6. Add new deletion candidates under the appropriate day near the top of this page.
    1. Alternatively, if the category is a candidate for speedy renaming (see Wikipedia:Category renaming), add it to the speedy category at the bottom.
  7. Make sure you add a colon (:) in the link to the category being listed, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes the category link a hard link which can be seen on the page (and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating).
  8. Sign any listing or vote you make by typing ~~~~ after your text.
  9. Link both categories to delete and categories to merge into. Failure to do this will delay consideration of your suggestion.

Special notes

[edit]

Some categories may be listed in Category:Categories for deletion but accidently not listed here.

Discussion for Today

[edit]
This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_January_26


January 26

[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS

[edit]

Category:Parazacco

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Parazacco is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:55, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:2030s in Africa

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Yet another underpopulated category for the future. The two articles contained within Category:2030 in Moroccan sport are already in the subcategory. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 07:34, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:2027 in Africa

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Only contents are those in Category:2027 Africa Cup of Nations. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 07:27, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Acanthorhodeus

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Acanthorhodeus is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:12, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge All of these monotypic taxa CfD's should be bundled. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 07:04, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chromobotia

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Chromobotia is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gymnocharacinus

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Gymnocharacinus is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:58, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spratellomorpha

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Spratellomorpha is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:56, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Stolothrissa

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Stolothrissa is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:55, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Omosudidae

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Omosudidae is a monogeneric family, and its genus Omosudis is also monotypic. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:40, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Typhlichthys

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Typhlichthys is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:38, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Balistapus

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Balistapus is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:31, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Syngnathoides

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Syngnathoides is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:29, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lamprichthys

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Lamprichthys is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:49, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American Masters Athlete that competed in Olympics

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection. Only 3 articles were not in the Category:Olympic track and field athletes for the United States tree and I verified via PetScan that they either a) never competed in the Olympics (due to 1980 boycott or WWII) or b) competed under another nationality (dual nationality). Opposed rename at speedy. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Copy of speedy discussion
American masters athletes that competed in the Summer Olympics

@Trackinfo, what do you think about including a link in the sidebar of Category:American masters athletes using the {{PetScan}} template like this (see right)? The issue with the current title is that the 'M' in Masters and the 'A' in Athletes shouldn't be capitalized because we use sentence case for category titles, see WP:NCCPT. Also, a definite article "the" is missing after the word "in".
The benefit of just including a link to the PetScan is that it will be automatically populated, and it still serves the navigation aid purpose so it will be easier to maintain. Greatly appreciate your work here. --Habst (talk) 14:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These are very special / unique individuals that competed as an Olympian, and were capable of continuing to compete later as a Masters athlete. Many Olympians have attempted to continue as a Masters but were unable (due to past injuries or other reasons). Recommend: to not change.[Side note: Not part of this conversation: Occasionally the individual has been a both at the same time.] PlainDonut (talk) 03:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PlainDonut, what do you think about putting this category intersection link at the category page, so that the list of U.S. masters Olympians is still there and will be automatically updated in the future by a computer, instead of having to manually maintain it at this category? --Habst (talk) 15:45, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Some of the USA Masters Athletes (Track and Field) competed at the Winter Olympics, hence the term
"Olympics."
Side Note: Some Masters Athletes (Track and Field) were USA Olympic Coaches. PlainDonut (talk) 03:30, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PlainDonut, I updated the PetScan link to include everyone from Category:Olympic competitors, i.e. both the Summer and Winter Olympics. If they were Olympic coaches only and not competitors, they don't belong in this category because it says, "competed" in the Olympics.
Now that the PetScan link includes all Summer and Winter competitors who are U.S. masters athletes, what do you think? --Habst (talk) 13:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As long as we keep category or sub-category: "American Masters Athlete that competed in Olympics"
Side note: Willie Gault is one example that competed in Masters, Summer Olys, and was an alternate for the Winter Olys. Lolo Jones and Lauryn Williams competed in Summer and Winter Olys. Willie Davenport competed in Masters, Summer and Winter Olys. There might be more. PlainDonut (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My concern is not so much to gloss up the appearance within the category, which would be a single edit kind of move. It would be across all current 130 and growing members of this list, which would necessarily also contain Category:Olympic track and field athletes for the United States and Category:American masters athletes. If one were a sub-category of another in either direction, editors are encouraged to remove the duplicate category. But the double duplication is what makes this category unique. We could end up with 130 articles chaotically changing categories which would be difficult to track and effectively make this and possibly other categories incomplete. This does not serve the purpose of categories in helping users locate similar content. As @Plain Donut commented elsewhere, each is a special accomplishment, not easily achieved in either direction.
Sub comment: It is difficult to participate in discussions like this when every capital letter causes the cursor to jump back to the beginning of the comment box. Every sentence needs to be re-constructed with multiple copy/paste edits. On my multiple computers using Safari, this has been an ongoing problem I have remarked about for years.Trackinfo (talk) 05:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Trackinfo, re: your computer issue, can you try using another browser like Firefox? Or if not, try using the mobile version of Wikipedia here to reply instead?
I don't understand how merging would make those 130 articles incomplete. It would be a straightforward change, and we could verify that all 130 are in Category:American masters athletes and you could add that category to your watchlist to see if any are added or removed. We are not losing any data either, because the full list of U.S. masters Olympians will always be available at this category intersection no matter what.
In general, I don't see the reason to separately manually maintain something that is both an outlier (there is no equivalent Category:Candadian Masters Athlete that competed in Olympics or for any other country) and can already be maintained with 100% accuracy by a computer program (PetScan) above.
Also, what do you think about the casing and grammar issues with the category name? Again, I greatly respect your work here so hoping we can come to a consensus. --Habst (talk) 15:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Trackinfo: The intersection between Olympian and Masters athlete is non-defining. They are two separate unrelated traits. Being a track and field athlete at the Olympics is defining and being a masters athlete is defining, but the intersection of those two is not defining. The content could be converted to a list either by expanding List of masters athletes or on a new page where more context can be given. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Cautiously relisting. If the category is not merged/deleted, should it be renamed?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:13, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Scaturiginichthys

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Scaturiginichthys is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:35, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Oxudercinae

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: These categories are overlapping – mudskipper is the common name for members of the subfamily Oxudercinae. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:07, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ratsirakia

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Ratsirakia is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:47, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Coryphaena

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Coryphaena is the sole member of the monogeneric family Coryphaenidae. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:28, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Batrachoidiformes

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Batrachoidiformes is a monotypic order. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:20, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hebei Tiangong F.C. players

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: I mistakenly created the category on its current name. IDontHaveSkype (talk) 01:38, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy rename as WP:C2E. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:15, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Colluricinclidae

[edit]
Nominator's rationale: Colluricinclidae is a monogeneric family containing only Colluricincla, so normally I'd propose merging it into its parent Category:Passeriformes. However, according to A multi-gene phylogeny reveals novel relationships for aberrant genera of Australo-Papuan core Corvoidea and polyphyly of the Pachycephalidae and Psophodidae (Aves: Passeriformes)  and Historical biogeography of an Indo-Pacific passerine bird family (Pachycephalidae): different colonization patterns in the Indonesian and Melanesian archipelagos  (and as described in our article on shrikethrushes), Colluricincla has been moved into the family Pachycephalidae, making Colluricinclidae a junior subjective synonym of Pachycephalidae. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:15, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]